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Just looking for a classification. I think I got a really good deal on what I consider to be a quarter sleeve, however I cannot seem to find anything clearly defining what it is. Half sleeve and full sleeve seem to be pretty self-explanatory. Thanks!
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A sleeve tattoo of any size by definition wraps all the way around the part of the arm. A large tattoo or a collection of tattoos does not make a sleeve until it wraps all the way around and has background fill so not much if any skin is left peeking through.
Full sleeve - Goes from shoulder to wrist
Half sleeve - Goes from Shoulder to elbow
Quarter sleeve - goes from shoulder to mid bicep or sometimes from wrist up to the middle of the forearm.
It is easier to cover up a quarter sleeve and that is why they are more popular. however these days with how common place tattoos ahve become many people are getting half and full sleeves also. Even women are getting full sleeve tattoo designs. Right now a lot of guys are going for traditional Japanese themes like koi fish, samurai and evil spirits or masks.
For women koi fish are also popular but flowers are pretty common place also.
It is best to decide if you are going to want a full, half or quarter sleeve before working out the design. If you are not sure you can work with the artist on the possibility of leaving the design open to be added on to but typically sleeves that get added on to later don't flow as well. For example a dragon sleeve design might not weave around the arm in the best of ways etc.
A sleeve tattoo of any size by definition wraps all the way around the part of the arm. A large tattoo or a collection of tattoos does not make a sleeve until it wraps all the way around and has background fill so not much if any skin is left peeking through.
Full sleeve - Goes from shoulder to wrist
Half sleeve - Goes from Shoulder to elbow
Quarter sleeve - goes from shoulder to mid bicep or sometimes from wrist up to the middle of the forearm.
It is easier to cover up a quarter sleeve and that is why they are more popular. however these days with how common place tattoos ahve become many people are getting half and full sleeves also. Even women are getting full sleeve tattoo designs. Right now a lot of guys are going for traditional Japanese themes like koi fish, samurai and evil spirits or masks.
For women koi fish are also popular but flowers are pretty common place also.
It is best to decide if you are going to want a full, half or quarter sleeve before working out the design. If you are not sure you can work with the artist on the possibility of leaving the design open to be added on to but typically sleeves that get added on to later don't flow as well. For example a dragon sleeve design might not weave around the arm in the best of ways etc.
Do any of you know the name of the Japanese art for tattooing?
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I used to go to this lady in Denver (but now live in Calgary) who did cosmetic liner for me. I'd like to find someone here in Calgary but do not know the name of the technique (nor is she listed in the Denver directory).
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Horimono
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Horimono (彫ãç©, 彫ç©) is the term used for traditional Japanese tattoos.
From the Japanese horu 'to carve, engrave or inscribe' and mono, 'thing'.
Executed with tebori, the Japanese tattoo artist uses traditional motifs such as peony flowers, dragons or unique ukiyo-e style human figures to create a tattoo that renders the whole body as a single, symbolic work. Horimono tattoos are also unmistakable by their gaku, literally 'frame', of waves, water or wind swirls surrounding the centre of the tattoo, which gives the horimono its 'suit' appearance.
Horimono are also known variously in literature or speech as irezumi, bunshin, shisei, gaman or hokuro. Although many Westerners and Japanese use irezumi to refer to traditional Japanese tattoos, this is technically incorrect since irezumi is a cruder term based on method. As the term horimono references the art form involved in creating such a tattoo, Japanese tattoo artists and those tattooed generally use the word horimono.
Due in part to the origins of tattoo culture in Japan, its association with geishin (penal tattooing), bakuto groups as well as present day criminal cultures, most notably the Yakuza, tattoos are still a strong social taboo in Japanese culture. Sadly part of this tradition of taboo is also due to discriminatory practices against the Ainu whose women wore large facial tattoos and the Hinin and Burakumin who were given tattoos to brand their caste. Wearers of tattoos may be refused service at onsen (bath houses), hotels, sex clubs and even bars. Part of this practice stems from wanting to avoid trouble with gangs and violent youth, but much more of the prohibition rests on perceived social opinions of difference in Japan and not wanting to make other guests uncomfortable. So even if you are gaijin (foreign) and tattooed you may still be denied entrance despite the obvious lack of Yakuza connection.
Horimono
From BME Encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Horimono (彫ãç©, 彫ç©) is the term used for traditional Japanese tattoos.
From the Japanese horu 'to carve, engrave or inscribe' and mono, 'thing'.
Executed with tebori, the Japanese tattoo artist uses traditional motifs such as peony flowers, dragons or unique ukiyo-e style human figures to create a tattoo that renders the whole body as a single, symbolic work. Horimono tattoos are also unmistakable by their gaku, literally 'frame', of waves, water or wind swirls surrounding the centre of the tattoo, which gives the horimono its 'suit' appearance.
Horimono are also known variously in literature or speech as irezumi, bunshin, shisei, gaman or hokuro. Although many Westerners and Japanese use irezumi to refer to traditional Japanese tattoos, this is technically incorrect since irezumi is a cruder term based on method. As the term horimono references the art form involved in creating such a tattoo, Japanese tattoo artists and those tattooed generally use the word horimono.
Due in part to the origins of tattoo culture in Japan, its association with geishin (penal tattooing), bakuto groups as well as present day criminal cultures, most notably the Yakuza, tattoos are still a strong social taboo in Japanese culture. Sadly part of this tradition of taboo is also due to discriminatory practices against the Ainu whose women wore large facial tattoos and the Hinin and Burakumin who were given tattoos to brand their caste. Wearers of tattoos may be refused service at onsen (bath houses), hotels, sex clubs and even bars. Part of this practice stems from wanting to avoid trouble with gangs and violent youth, but much more of the prohibition rests on perceived social opinions of difference in Japan and not wanting to make other guests uncomfortable. So even if you are gaijin (foreign) and tattooed you may still be denied entrance despite the obvious lack of Yakuza connection.
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